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The Giants wrapped up their final roster yesterday and added six (6) previously cut players to their practice squad.

If one looks at my blog post from a few weeks ago, they’ll see that my roster selections were 113% correct for the 32nd straight year (I admit in ’78 I thought Doug Kotar wouldn’t be able to make it so I got one wrong that year).  Kotar was diagnosed with cancer during his career and sadly died in 1983 of a brain tumor.  In the spirit of Kotar it was nice if not downright inspiring to see Mark Herzlich nab a spot on the roster after his own cancer fight and what was best is that the B.C. product deserved it.  He played really well and was among a slew of Giants rookie linebackers to make the squad on a team that was in need of an influx of new blood at that position.

So let’s take an analysis of the 2012 New York Super Bowl Bound Football Giants.


The battle here of course was for the back-up job and a bad back, a case of strep throat and a scandalous campaign donation to Rick Santorum’s presidential campaign (or was that Jeff Feagles) handed the job to David Carr, who the Giants probably wanted to give the job to anyway. It’s interesting that Rosenfels was placed on IR (putting him out for the year) as opposed to just coming up with an injury settlement and waiving him where he’d have a chance to sign on with another team.  Last I heard Strep Throat is not a season ending injury, unless your Max Hardcore starlett Catalina.  She runs a day care in Calabasas now.  Watching Carr play he gives me more confidence than Rosenfels (I have no idea why) but his slinging throwing motion keeps getting lower and lower.  People say Vince Young has a side-arm delivery but Young is positively Elway-like compared to Carr.  Kent Tekulve had a higher release point than Carr….but he wasn’t nearly as good-looking.

I always find it fascinating when every year Giants fans post notes about how they thought the young QB would make it as a 3rd Stringer.  The young QB for the Giants NEVER makes it.  Ask Andre Woodson and Rhett Bomar.  And unlike Woodson, Bomar wasn’t truly awful. And neither was Ryan Perriloux, the LSU problem child.  Ryan didn’t play much but he actually looked better than I would have thought and certainly showed some comfort in a pro-set that I think few would have anticipated after watching him at LSU (or Jacksonville State I assume if anyone actually ever saw him play there).  So I was glad he made the practice squad because he does have some upside.  It’ll be fun watching him next pre-season before the Giants cut him again.

Of course all these players are likely going to be an afterthought as what Giant fans really will be focusing on this year is hoping Eli Manning throws less interceptions…and fumbles less…and keeps doing those Oreo commercials with his quickly aging brother and the Williams’ sisters.


With Ahmad Bradshaw and Brandon Jacobs assured of spots it was nice to see Jacobs get tossed from the Jets pre-season game just to remind us what an a destructive hot head the Big Saluki can be when he puts his mind to it.  At least he managed to hang onto his helmet.  It was assumed that D.J. Ware would make the team and he played well enough to earn another spot and I believe (as does BK) that Ware could be a bigger part of the offense and be effective while giving Bradshaw and Jacobs a little more rest.  But that probably won’t happen.  The real comer here turned out to be Da’rel Scott, the speedy late round pick out of Maryland.  He had two monster runs during the pre-season and to his credit absolutely earned his spot on the team.

Most probably felt coming into pre-season that Da’rel was practice squad bound but instead that honor went to Andre Brown, who under normal circumstances probably played well enough to make a spot.  Brown’s just a tough luck guy, from his injury in ’09 to the 2nd year in a row getting cut by the Giants even though he didn’t perform poorly.  I’d say there’s a decent chance Brown finds his way onto the Giants sometime within the first 6 weeks of the season or he’ll end up signing with another team.  Much to BK’s disappointment, Charles Scott never really got a fair chance primarily lining up as the team’s 3rd fullback and was cut.  This is yet another time when BK predicted greatness and it turned out less than that (I don’t want to have to bring up his championing of The Bogmen back in mid-90’s).

Henry Hynoski wasn’t great in the pre-season but as the only pure fullback in camp he would have had to have been terrible not make the team and he wasn’t that.  But he wasn’t great either which is why the Tight End-depleted G-Men will inevitably start hybrid Ten Toes Pascoe at FB to open the season.


The injury and eventual departure of Steve Smith meant that Mario Manningham would be the undeniable starter alongside 2012 Pro Bowl selection Hakeem Nicks.  The battle would be (and really still is) for the 3rd WR position.  Despite a sloppy game on specials Devin Thomas made the squad and joins Domenick Hixon and Victor Cruz as 3rd wide receiver options.  Hixon and Thomas will also spend some time battling for the kick return position.  The Giants 2012 draft class is quicky going down an infamy.  A broken foot postponing the debut of 1st round pick Prince Amakamura, a season-ending injury to 2nd round pick Marvin Austin and then there’s the tale of Jerrel Jernigan.  Let’s be honest, the only reason Mark Clayton isn’t on this team is because the Giants spent a 3rd rounder on Jernigan. If he’s a free-agent or even a late-round pick Jernigan is practice squad bound if not cut altogether.  But the savvy vet Clayton is let go and Jernigan gets a chance but my guess is he doesn’t see the field much in ’11.  Ramses Barden starts the year on the PUP and whether or not he’s given a chance to be a factor this year will probably depend on what Hixon, Cruz and/or Thomas do when on the field.


You’ll be hard pressed to find a more questionable set of tight ends on a NFL roster this year than the Giants of the Meadowlands.  Travis Beckum falls into the starting position, but he doesn’t block well, hasn’t proven he can run the seam pass that basically was Kevin Boss’ bread and honey with banana and flax and has never really created the mismatches with linebackers that he was supposed to when he came into the league from Wisconsin as an undersized Tight End.  But with Bear Pascoe playing fullback (and let’s face it, his hands aren’t so strong) Beckum will be backed-up by gigantic Jake Ballard, who has very limited NFL playing experience.  Yet apparently he was considered a better option than 270-pound free-agent Daniel Coates which doesn’t say much for Coates.  Christian Hopkins was signed on to the practice squad but you almost get the feeling that placement was more out of desperation than a true belief that Hopkins is possessed by a pool of potential.  Perhaps the Giants will take a chance on recently cut Cornelius Ingram or Desmond Clark, but who knows if that would be any better.


The Giants revamped Offensive Line was a mixed bag this pre-season.  Since you can basically throw out the 4th pre-season game because no one played, the Giants had one very good offensive game (Chicago) and two pretty bad ones (Carolina and the Jets).  The line wasn’t terrible though.  The Giants ran the ball generally well and Eli managed to go the entire pre-season without blood gushing from his forehead so that’s one way to judge progress.

Will Beatty played well enough that the battle for the LT job with Stacy Andrews never really materialized with Andrews tucked neatly in as his back-up.  Fourth-rounder James Brewer didn’t show much but similarly to Jernigan was going to make the team regardless which means it’s possible none of the first 4 draft picks for the Giants this year will have any impact.

There was some disconnect between Eli and David Bass this pre-season but it should be fine as will all the guards on the squad (Snee, Diehl, Boothe, Petrus) and RT Kareem MacKenzie.  What’s interesting is the cutting of Chris White, a back-up center who saw significant action in the pre-season.  With Adam Koets on the PUP and the cutting of Jim Cordle (who Coughlin called an “outstanding young guy” which is nice considering in 2 pre-seasons he received no significant playing time) the Giants will go into the season without a proven back-up center.  If Bass goes down, the Giants will have to move Snee or Petrus to the middle.  Giants fan should hope that scenario doesn’t occur.


The 2009 Giants defense was truly historically bad.  The 2010 Giants D was better although faded badly at the end of the year.  Unfortunately, like Amy Fisher trying to pick-up the pieces of her life again, the Giants ability to improve on the defensive side of the ball in 2011 may be greatly inhibited by injuries (as well as addiciton to alcohol and prescription pain killers).

On the defensive line, one will only hope that Osi Umenyiori comes back from a pre-season off to regain the form that made him a pass-rushing force in 2011 (although being a little more stout on the run would be nice). However the emergence of Jason Pierre-Paul and the return of Mathias Kiwanuka (who will be jumping back and forth between OLB and DE) should help hold the fort down if it takes time for Osi to round into shape.

The biggest concern will be in the interior, where their best DT from 2010 Barry Cofield jumped ship to go the Redskins (because Barry loves pain…he’s actually relocating his Dominatrix Mistress Amy to DC because playing in the Cock and Ball Torture that is Dan Snyder’s Washington Redskins apparently isn’t enough) and 2nd round pick Marvin Austin will spend his time rehabbing with Terrell Thomas and taking money advice from Sage Rosenfels on the IR.  So basically a collection of journeyman – Chris Canty, Rocky Bernard, and recently signed ex-1st rounder Jimmy Kennedy – will join future journeyman Linval Joseph in what could be a real weak point for the Giants unless someone turns out to be a lot better than anticipated.

Dave Tollefson continues to find a way to make the squad, which was bad news for Alex Hall and Ayanaga “Don’t Call Me Hal” Okpokuwuruk, both of whom made impact at various times in the pre-season. Interestingly the Giants chose to keep less impressive pre-season performers – Justin Trattou and Dwayne Hendricks – on the practice squad. Hendricks was, like Hopkins, a move made more out of a desperate need for depth than anything else.  But why Trattou?  It’s like the time BK chose to have a mid-life crisis at the age of 30 and bought a porsche.  Why would you do that?  The parts alone make cost of ownership prohibitive. That’s why I drive a Schwinn.

The fact that Jimmy Kennedy, who was in camp about as long Men Without Hats was popular, beat out Gabe Watson for a spot doesn’t speak much for the once promising Watson.  But it did seem that Watson had a unique ability to find himself on the receiving end of pancake blocks this pre-season so I can’t say his dismissal was surprising.


All hail the rooks! Welcome aboard Greg Jones, Jacquian Williams, Spencer Paysinger and Mark Herzlich.  All four players deserved to make the roster and it was good to see the Giants reward performance.  In a strange way Clint Sintim’s injury made keeping all four easier.  The cutting of Phillip Dillard would have been a surprise had you predicted it at the start of the pre-season but not after watching him play.  It wasn’t that Dillard was terrible, he wasn’t.  He wasn’t a terrible draft pick in the 4th last year.  He wasn’t terrible at the University of Nebraska.  But he’s one of these guys who’s always going to be replaceable because he’ll never start in the league and he’ll never be good enough to have a coaching staff keep him over a better performer.  Like Peter Scolari.

The starters will be Michael Boley, Jonathan Goff and the converted (again) Kiwanuka.  But my prediction is the end of the year starters will be Greg Jones manning the middle alongside Boley and probably Herzlich.

Zak DeOssie is no longer even listed as a linebacker but rather just “Long Snapper.” I don’t know how I’d feel about that if I was Zak.  It’s kind of like being listed as just a “fluffer.” Or just the “bass player” for Van Halen. Of just “Vice President Biden.” But when in doubt, two of those three could step into the job if asked to…and so Zak could play middle linebacker if absolutely necessary, but I can’t imagine a scenario where that would occur.


Well, the injury issues with Terrell Thomas and Prince Amakamura (who is on the active roster although out until October) have been well-discussed.  So let’s focus on who is ready to play.

The starters will be Corey Webster and Aaron Ross as the corners and Antrel Rolle and Kenny Phillips patrolling the deep middle as safeties.  Deion Grant will often be brought in as a 5th DB and truthfully that’s better than average.  It’s the lack of depth where lay the concern.

Late signee veteran Brian Williams and sometimes good, sometimes not so good Michael Coe basically become the back-up corners by default as none of the other (healthy) corners in camp did anything to show they belonged on a NFL roster.

6th Rounder Tyler Sash was okay and Darrick Martin apparently had a good enough game against the Pats to make the team as a 10th defensive back.


Let’s face it, Lawrence Tynes is no Raul Allegre (other than the fact that they both get hurt a lot).  So when Rhys Lloyd came into camp for an injured Tynes many a Giant fan hoped the healthy-eating Lloyd could kick Tynes out of a job.  But anyone who saw either the Jets or Pats pre-season game know that wasn’ t going to happen.  So now we have a mediocre professional kicker coming off a thigh injury and four-weeks of inaction opening the season.  Everything’s turning up Giants this year.

The fiercest battle in camp was for punter where ex-Jet vet Steve Weatherford beat out last year’s rookie disaster Matt Dodge.  Dodge did kick better this pre-season, but ultimately Weatherford is just the safest vet.  Apparently Dodge wasn’t that upset about being cut.  He just downed a Whey Protein and Creatine shake and hit Gold’s gym for 2-hours to work on some lat fly’s.

As for Weatherford, he’s not exciting but he’s solid and should create less stress for the Giants, which should be a relief since based on this pre-season the Giants may be punting a lot.


This is the most uncertain Giants team heading into the season since Coughlin’s fist year as coach in 2004.  The Giants just seem flat below average at Tight End, Interior Defensive Line and Linebacker and have become suddenly very thin at receiver and cornerback.  However, they have a good quarterback, playmakers at wide receiver and defensive end and an excellent set of running backs.

So how will the Giants fare in 2011?  Stay tuned for the next podcast when BK and I discuss just that.


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Charles Ferguson’s 2011 Oscar-winning documentary Inside Job focused on the 2008 financial collapse that literally shook the world. 

While it shouldn’t have won best documentary (which should have gone to either “The Tillman Story” or “How Sweet It Is: Whatever Happened to the Gerkin”) and it paints a rather broad picture sometimes using less than the most upstanding people to demonize…well, they do mostly deserve to be demonized…less than the most upstanding people, it’s still a pretty fascinating (and infuriating) view.

This year’s inside linebacker class is not unlike those painted in the movie.

You’ve got the obnoxious prick (Glen Hubbard), the somewhat blamess bad guy (Charles Prince), the wanna-be crusader (Barney Frank) and the evil-mastermind shrouded in an unfathomable level of arrogance (Larry Summers although BK could also fit this description as well.  As could Dodgers owner Frank McCourt.  Or the guy who created Shakey’s Mojo Potatoes).

I’m going to exclude Illinois’ talented and troubled Martez Wilson from this group because first of all it’s too easy and shouldn’t really count (like counting the time you had sex with a $1,300/hour prostitute as one of the notches on your bedpost.  Yes you had intercourse, but it’s no triumph.  So your number of notches stays at 2 BK, okay, deal with it).  Besides, I featured Wilson in my OLB category as I think that’s where he’ll end up after gets into the NFL – on the outside…or in prison.

So let’s take stock on some of our top inside line-backer prospects in this year’s draft.

Quiet but deadly.  That’s what non-supplysiders might call former Bush economic adviser Glen Hubbard.  A sheepish, John-Clayton-looking, arrogant sun-of-a-pistol who dismisses any wrong doing on his or really the entire Bush administration’s part in regards to the 2008 financial meltdown.  Quiet but deadly – It’s also what they call UNC’s Quan Sturdivant (as well as the chili cheese fries at Irv’s Burgers in West Hollywood – TRUST ME, just stick with combo #1 and call it a day).

Sturdivant was a solid if not overly spectacular player at UNC known more for off-the-field transgressions (July 2010 Marijuana possession arrest) and injuries (missed 5 games in ’10 due to the same hammy problems that had him drop out of some drills at the combine).

Still, his physicals are good clocking an impressive sub 4.6 in the 40 with good numbers on the broad and vert and an almost acceptable 21 reps.

But here’s the thing about Sturdivant – like Hubbard – he’s too quiet for his own good and I don’t trust it.  Sure, there are times you want people to just shut the fuck up – Gwyneth Paltrow (enough with the baby advice already), Michelle Bachman (stop with the birther nonsense and take off your clothes already); Dennis, my mentally disabled next door neighbor (really, do you have to rap some Wiz Khalifa outside at 6am every weekday morning) and BK (anyone who listened to our first podcast knows what that’s all about).  But not middle (or inside) linebackers.  They need to be vocal leaders and there’s something about Quan Sturdivant that just screams “Specials only”.  Kind of like walking by a Border’s or Blockbuster these days.  He may hang in this league for a while, but you don’t spend a 2nd or 3rd rounder on a guy who’s best case scenario has him chasing down punt returners.

Casey Mathews is a borderline Top 10 ILB prospect so don’t mistake me listing him 2nd as an indication that I think he’s the 2nd best ILB in the draft – he’s not.  However, Mathews is being overhyped as a prospect.  Take the exact same guy with the exact same intangibles, stick him on Oregon State and make his last name something like “Kregg” and make his dad not an ex-football player but an ex-tool salesman and make his brother not a current football player but say a sort of meandering ex-landscaper and Mathews wouldn’t even be drafted.

Like Prince, who may not have been culpable but was still part and parsel of the financial problem, Mathews may not really have NFL skills but is going to get a shot to play in the show.  This is based almost exclusively on his name (Clay Sr.’s son, Clay’s brother, Bruce’s nephew) and the fact that he had a good night in the National Championship game against Auburn.

But while you can dismiss his sad 13-rep performance at the Combine’s as a result of injury, he’s short, undersized, and has hands smaller than China’s spunky tennis pro Li Na. 

At some point name recognition can only get you so far – just ask George W. Bush.  I really have nothing against the Mathews clan, but this is getting ridiculous.  Can’t we just put Casey on the Las Vegas Locomotives of the UFL and call it a career?

Barney Frank is neither thin nor handsome; neither exceedingly noble or exceedingly knowledgeable.  But he became a leading voice of dissent and investigative prowess during the congressional hearings on the financial crisis and compared to the rather sorry bunch around him, came out looking okay.

My comparison of the openly gay Frank to Sheppard should not be seen in homophobic football circles as an inference on Sheppard’s sexuality as the man’s Mila Kunis fanboy site should clearly attest.  (Now if I put Wisconsin’s Culmer St. Jean on here, that would be another story.  Not because I know anything about his personal life but we all know the past history with Wisconsin’s baller’s and we’ll leave it at that).

Like Frank, Sheppard’s not scared to hit the hole and has been called a natural born leader.  Like Frank, he’s a big hunk of cheese weighing in at a legit 2-fitty and unlike Frank, his combine number were acceptable.  (Frank’s 40 time at the 1998 Congressional combines was 11.7 but he did manage 3 reps).

It seems to me that Sheppard should be rated as the #1 ILB prospect over position question guys like Wilson and Washington’s Mason Foster not to mention Sturdivant.  But like Frank, sometimes guys with funny voices just aren’t taken as seriously as they should.

Former Clinton and Obama economic advisor, as well as former Harvard President, Larry Summers really is a remarkable prick.  He’s very smart, I guess, but then again so was Ted Kaczynski, Neville Chamberlin and the guy who created flourescent lamps and look what happened to them (actual headline from 1849 edition of the Irish newspaper “The Daily Drunk” – Flourescent Lamp Creator and Comedian Arrested in Car with Tranny Hooker – Denies He Knew She was a He”).

Summer’s is so arrogant that Donald Trump suggested he tone it down a notch.   The same cannot be said about Georgia’s 2010 Defensive Captain Akeen Dent.  Talk about intangibles.  He made the honor roll twice and unlike Summer’s – who was born with a silver trust account in his mouth – Dent’s dad went to jail and for like something real, not some bullshit check-forging scam.

But with Dent the question isn’t leadership or college production (126 tackles in 2010) or even physicals (his speed at the combines was average, his 24 reps acceptable and he had the best vert and broad for ILB’s at the combine).  It’s that some don’t see that “somethin’ somethin'” on the field.  Like Noah Wylie – he’s fine.  You wanna put him in as a doctor – he’ll be fine.  You wanna put him in as a lawyer – he’ll be fine.  You wanna put him in as the lead in some sci-fi mini-series – he’s miscast but he won’t completely fuck it up.  And that’s what people seem to say about Dent.  He’s perfectly fine, but he’ll never be a star.

But this is where I may beg to differ.  I’m not saying he’s Ray Lewis or Patrick Willis but inside linebackers are leaders who’s impact on a game are often times not seen merely in stats.  I think Dent makes it as a starter in this man’s league and since I’m never wrong, you can bet the house on it.

Sadly, time has gotten the better of me this NFL Draft season and we’ve decided from this point forward to forgo the BK-O-Meter, Sleepers and Rankings category because the draft is a week away and I’ve got like 20 more posts to make.  So we added the Podcast (the ILB podcast may not post, however, because BK was on a cell phone and decided in his infinite wisdom to not speak directly into it) and I’ll give you a couple other foods for thought when you watch this year’s NFL draft.  BK is a fan of Miami’s Colin McCarthy (“His combine numbers are off the charts”) and North Carolina State’s Nate Irving (“This guy makes plays!”).  But he likes Cal Berkely’s Mike Mohamad the most – because his physicals are good and he’s a white guy with an odd last name.  I think Michigan State’s Greg Jones has fallen unfairly after a poor Senior Bowl and can be a player in the league.  Also watch too see if UConn’s Greg Lloyd, the estranged son of the former Pittsburgh Steeler All-Pro linebacker with the same name, gets drafted.  His physicals aren’t great, his college career was okay and he’s had some injury and other minor issues here and there and under normal circumstances wouldn’t be drafted but we’ll see if, like Mathews, his name gets him a 6th or 7th round grab.

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